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Chief Gerald Bouchard
best chief ever

dedicated to my Uncle and aunty
Chief Gerald N Bouchard
Wife: Catherine Bouchard, Ach

the information in this site came from my old website and robins home school sites over the years.

My beliefs are very strong on many issues and I believe we should be exercising all our rights from harvesting our land to protecting it.

 

The content of this site are of my Opinion in regards to the pays  plat band.

it gives you most of my stand on band issues and gives you sometimes ideas on how to deal with those issues.

 

 

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in 1995

 

 
            

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Darlene Morriseau

Matthew Goodchild Real Bouchard Peter Mushquash
 

 

 

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On Off Reserve members should all have the same rights to band functions either social or political.
       
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Ont. First Nations Map   Ont. First Nations Directory
 
 

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Adhesion to the 1850 treaty


We need to establish an on/off reserve elders council who will discuss the direction the band should take on self government but more importantly the future of our rights and territories.

 

Treaty Annuity

 

 

 
 


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St Jeromes catholic Church


I have been privy to much of the discussion that happened between my uncle, Chief Gerald Bouchard and many of the principal men , of the Pays Plat Band who were living there at the time when my Uncle was Chief

Much of the discussion happens when they have had a few drinks and then the emotions come out about the real situation..

The history on this site is my recollection of events as told to me by Gerald Bouchard, Mike Wanakamik, and others.

 

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this is a short history of Pays Plat from prior to becoming a reserve until now and an explanation of the customary chief of pays plat.

there are some controversial issues that will be presented but it is what was agreed to by the principal men involved with protecting the rights of the Original Members who's ancestors used the traditional territories since time immemorial.

We need to understand the importance of a custom or traditional chief for the Pays Plat Band and why it needs to be restored to the original members to pursue their rights and claims to their territories.

the integrity of their claims is compromised by the recent influx of members who have no historical claim to the lands and territories of the original band members of pays plat. Our Aboriginal Rights to hunt and Utilize the Resources of our Traditional Territories must be Assured.
 

     

 

 


Important Issue.

Because of the weak stance the Band has taken on their land claims it is in a stagnant position,
We need to get it out of the lawyers hands and make it a little political, the last band meeting he was saying the exact same thing they said when my uncle Gerald was chief.

Im going to propose some things you should consider and we need the chief and council to do it.

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what claims the original members of the Pays Plat reservation have against Canada, Ontario and or any corporations or individual regarding their traditional territories including the reserve.

the area identified as pays plat traditional territories by Don Augers research is a land claim,

The Band must claim management rights to a vast territory to assure that their treaty and aboriginal right will be maintained and they will be able to assert their treaty and aboriginal rights over those territories to feed their people and to benefit off the natural resources.

The band must claim title to their traditional territories and start using them to benefit the members.

If we are waiting for the government to give us authority or permission to use our lands , your great grandchildren will still be asking for their rights.

We need to exercise the rights we believe we have on our territories
 

 


the traditional territories of
the pays plat band


 

Map

     

 

 


The right of ways can be made to pay the Band what is owed just by precedence,

the unique agreement with Ontario Hydro could make a difference.

not much of the history of the right of ways is known before they went through

But we do know that liquor was involved and possibly money when Ontario hydro right of way was confirmed, the Indian Agent was apparently not very honest.

 

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How many members know that the Band has a 30 million dollar law suit against it by the
Canadian Pacific Railway. I am the plaintiff

What members know of the history of the CPR passing through Pays Plat and the confirmation of the Pays Plat reserve #51

how many people know that the highway went right across the graveyard of the ancestors of Pays Plat Band members twice.

Did you know that the band has an agreement with Ontario Hydro and can be used for any grievances with the corporation and as a precedence of dealing with the other right of ways. Highway and Railroad

who has a claim against these right of way users
History is on your side

The highway
the Canadian Pacific Railway

These two entities owe the pays plat band millions of dollars

 

 


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The only Agreement that has been made and is making revenue for the Band was negotiated in 1991 no other progress has taken place since then although there are two other users who go through the reserve,

those right of ways are a big part of pays plats future.

 

 

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the band has an agreement with
Ontario Hydro and they need to understand the importance of this precedence.

payment of around 24 thousand per year since 1991 has paid an estimated

$500,000.00 in rental fees to the band
$500.000.00 damages

Hydro has also agreed that DIAND is responsible for Payment of the Agreement from when the right of way went through up until the agreement was signed with the Band and Hydro. A retroactive payment is DIANDs responsibility.

We must go after the DIAND for these damages and use the Ontario Hydro as a precedent on use of our lands.

The Land and a Larger Land Base was suppose to address many issues it was high jacked by DIAND and gives Ontario Hydro a free pass across the pays plat reservation  once again contrary to our agreement.

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ontario hydro & Pays Plat make a deal on the right of way in 1991

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Band Office Community Center

  Apparently the band is building a new renovated Building which is a good thing and way past due.

 

 

 


PaysPlat Band webpage

     

 

 

 

 


 

 

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There needs to be change to the band membership code , more like get rid of it and make something simple like ancestry

What should the policy be, why should we bring new members in when we cant help the members now.

We should not allow members to be transferred in, we need to keep our Bands integrity in regards to pays plat traditional territories.

Our membership should be based only on historical and ancestral kinships and not for political purposes as they have been

 


 

     

 


 

The Health Center

 

 

 

 

 


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Issues that need to be discussed
  • Vaccines do they cause disease
  • Smart meters on houses and the harm they do
    healthy snacks, are they healthy or loaded with sugar, gmos and chemicals
  • Organic food vs. conventional,
  • does pesticides, herbicides and artificial fertilizers harm your health and cause disease
  • The importance of vitamin D, C A B K and Anti Oxidants in our Foods.
  • Are there natural and traditional Cures for Cancer, Diabetes, heart disease and Asthma
  • Why are we not teaching our children how to prevent these diseases if we cant cure them.

 



Smart Meters are they making you sick


Organic food  vs Conventional food

     

 

 

 

 

There has always problems with housing, we need to also provide the opportunity for band members to buy land and build on it off.

 

 

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the need for a Policy that is directed by all band members
we are not so big that this cant be achieved economically

there is no action done for emergency housing, even when  3 or four houses are empty of course that's for my request.

who is getting a house, who has an application or what if any renovations are going to be made.

the quality of the construction of the house, safety and lack of landscaping addressed.

The poor construction and quality of certain unqualified non band member individuals being re hired even after a costly major mistake or two
 

 

 



hope all of them aint made like this one

     

 


The Arena needs to be made functional, it is a waste of 2 million Dollars.

We must vote on whether there should be a forensic audit on our monies spent on this project along with the wood lot.

 

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the One million 300 thousand dollar over spending on this building and what shape it is in,  and being used for storage of gasoline engines, its a shame what has taken place.

Year ? now that the arena has not been used, a totally useless building for public purposes , a big 2 million dollar boat storage and archery range

You need to find out what is happening
We need an estimate to see what it would take to make the building useable. for any purpose other then rusting.

What can we use the Building For!
I propose we appoint an arena manager
to come up with ideas and or
maybe investments

 

 


     

 

 



the people that i talked to told me that they dont buy from there because the wood wasn't seasoned to their liking. too green

 

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are the machines used owned by the band

Is this operation making or breaking the band

Is the Band subsidizing this business

We may need AN ACCOUNTING and audit
 

 
 
     

 

 


The business center has been abused for the last 25 years the restaurant was taken out to keep the competition away from fertingigers store.

the gas pumps are in terrible condition and the parking lot is pretty bad too , the bathrooms are starting to smell of septic tank gas..

 

 

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the shape of the business center is terrible

the upkeep of the business center is a major issue as it is the only building that is and can generate income and provide work for the pays Plat Band members and its being allowed to rot  and deteriorate.

DEMAND AN ACCOUNTING OF REVENUES OF THE CENTER

the terrible upkeep of the building needs to be addressed and why is the restaurant not open or any other business operating out of there. this building was constructed to house many businesses and must be utilized to the fullest.

The band renovated the restaurant right out of the picture, refused offers to rent the restaurant and made sure there is no competition to fertingigers,

doing good now because of the construction but with a restaurant it would have done way better.
 

 

 


     

 


With the Ec Dev officer its hard to say what is going on,

We need our Employees to account for there position and to report to the people what they are doing to create employment on or off the reserve.

We need a real economic plan

another reason why an elders council is needed.

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what is happening in regards to economic development in pays plat and is there any economic plans from the EDO

Is the EDO got any plans for the renting of space, or utilizing the arena and business center for something that will generate revenue for the band,

We need accountability from this position as their is a growing population which are in need of jobs and something to do.

A restaurant is feasible to operate always was and always will be. it is a crucial service needed to provide jobs for the youth and good food to the traveler, We must re install a small restaurant in the business center.
 

 
     

 

 

 


The water in Pays Plat is very good to drink, however protection of their water plant is warranted.

 

 

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Is the water plant safe in these days of terrorists
I do not see any fencing around the Bands water source
I do not see any security protecting your source of water from contamination by accident or on purpose.
I believe that there should be monitoring the area 24 hours per day
and alarms if necessary as like towns protect their water.

A gate should also be installed to stop traffick from access.

WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR WATER SOURCE FROM ACCIDENTAL OR being PURPOSELY TAMPERED WITH.

The water plant offers thanks to some members but their is no mention of Gerald Bouchard who started the whole issue of bad water on the pays plat reserve and who started the process to build the water plant.

 

 

 
     

 




We need to take our fair share of the resource, its the Band Councils responsibility to enforce these rights.

who is responsible to assure that our rights are protected and we are allowed to practice them.

We must mandate the chief and council to take a more active role in the management of our resources for our members.

If we dont get control of the food resource on our traditional territory we will be fighting the sports hunting even more for the same resources.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Our Treaty and or Aboriginal Rights

Treaty Rights are obtained from signing a treaty and as we know treaties or agreements seem to be able to be broken by the Government or your added to one under unilateral decision they have made.
 

Aboriginal Rights are inherent rights, they are rights that you are born with and no one can take them away from you, Our Aboriginal rights define our culture which is one of hunting, fishing, trapping, foraging, and gathering, we must be more protective of our territories.

Although we never cut the trees, plowed the land, dug up the earth, it doesn't mean that we would not eventually do that,

The survival of our culture depends on our ability to exercise our Aboriginal Rights within our Traditional Territories.

We need to define what aboriginal rights are.

With our moose becoming more and more scarce in the area it is necessary to have to travel sometimes a hundred miles or more to find one.  This situation makes it impossible for many families to hunt their moose. 

Our culture and traditions cannot be exercised because of the cost of traveling to find the scarce resource, and competing against the sports hunter.

We need to think about using our traditional territories to feed our people their traditional food and especially our elders, handi capped, single mothers, non hunters,  who can't hunt their own food.The have a right the they can't use and its not fair.

it is our Right

How can we protect Our Rights to hunt, fish, trap, forage and gather on our territories, We need to use it to Feed our Families.

We need to manage our own resources it is the only way that we will be able to insure our people that their rights to hunt fish, gather and trap are maintained for our people.

this is an issue that must be addressed to resolve a mulitude of problems the band needs to resolve..

 

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